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		<title>By: Alan Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 00:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Billy,

You&#039;re right - pausing PPC campaigns and watching how sales / enquiries / conversions change is a sure-fire way to understand the true value of a PPC campaign.

But for those who are confident PPC is delivering value, but are not sure how (which keywords, ads etc are building interest and awareness), looking at user behaviour stats such as page views, time on site, returning visits etc becomes incredibly useful.

Cheers,
Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Billy,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right &#8211; pausing PPC campaigns and watching how sales / enquiries / conversions change is a sure-fire way to understand the true value of a PPC campaign.</p>
<p>But for those who are confident PPC is delivering value, but are not sure how (which keywords, ads etc are building interest and awareness), looking at user behaviour stats such as page views, time on site, returning visits etc becomes incredibly useful.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Alan</p>
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		<title>By: billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 22:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>late to this discussion, but to get an idea of your ppc efforts effectiveness, why not just pause your accounts for a certain time frame. then look over your numbers. 

it seems drastic, but if you conversion data only shows that ppc is accounting for 20% of your sales, and they drop more or less, then you will know what actions to take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>late to this discussion, but to get an idea of your ppc efforts effectiveness, why not just pause your accounts for a certain time frame. then look over your numbers. </p>
<p>it seems drastic, but if you conversion data only shows that ppc is accounting for 20% of your sales, and they drop more or less, then you will know what actions to take.</p>
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		<title>By: THOMAS</title>
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		<dc:creator>THOMAS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alan Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Hannah

He&#039;s completely right - as an industry we need to get better at conversion attribution to better understand PPC&#039;s true value in generating interest and awareness and engaging visitors.

Because PPC is so trackable and accountable (especially compared to offline marketing mediums such as TV and print), it often falls into the trap of over-micro-management, where the only focus is conversion maximisation, where non-converting keywords are ruthlesslessly paused and where the indirect benefits of paid search are neglected and forgotten.

Highly recommend Avinash&#039;s book Web Analytics 2.0: The Art of Online Accountability and Science of Customer Centricity if you haven&#039;t read it already. Loads of useful advice on interpreting anaytics data and using it to make impactful and informed decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Hannah</p>
<p>He&#8217;s completely right &#8211; as an industry we need to get better at conversion attribution to better understand PPC&#8217;s true value in generating interest and awareness and engaging visitors.</p>
<p>Because PPC is so trackable and accountable (especially compared to offline marketing mediums such as TV and print), it often falls into the trap of over-micro-management, where the only focus is conversion maximisation, where non-converting keywords are ruthlesslessly paused and where the indirect benefits of paid search are neglected and forgotten.</p>
<p>Highly recommend Avinash&#8217;s book Web Analytics 2.0: The Art of Online Accountability and Science of Customer Centricity if you haven&#8217;t read it already. Loads of useful advice on interpreting anaytics data and using it to make impactful and informed decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 12:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alan,

Great post (just arrived via your comment on my blog).

Totally agree with making more use of analytics packages when managing PPC campaigns; and of course your comment about engagement...

As Avinash Kaushik said this week at SES London: &quot;First click attribution is a bit like crediting your first girlfriend with your current marriage&quot; 

The man&#039;s a genius :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alan,</p>
<p>Great post (just arrived via your comment on my blog).</p>
<p>Totally agree with making more use of analytics packages when managing PPC campaigns; and of course your comment about engagement&#8230;</p>
<p>As Avinash Kaushik said this week at SES London: &#8220;First click attribution is a bit like crediting your first girlfriend with your current marriage&#8221; </p>
<p>The man&#8217;s a genius <img src='http://www.alanmitchell.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alan Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Leigh,

You&#039;re right, with performance-based deals it&#039;s often in the agency&#039;s interests to go after the &#039;low hanging fruit&#039; of highly-converting keywords, ignoring those terms which are not converting as well, but are successfully engaging visitors and developing long-term growth for the client.

It&#039;s important for a client to understand what people do on their site - what their purpose is and how they interact. Once they understand the value of return visits and user engagement for their business, they will be in a better position to adjust the focus and motivations of their PPC agency, to become more in line with their desired outcomes and goals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Leigh,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, with performance-based deals it&#8217;s often in the agency&#8217;s interests to go after the &#8216;low hanging fruit&#8217; of highly-converting keywords, ignoring those terms which are not converting as well, but are successfully engaging visitors and developing long-term growth for the client.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important for a client to understand what people do on their site &#8211; what their purpose is and how they interact. Once they understand the value of return visits and user engagement for their business, they will be in a better position to adjust the focus and motivations of their PPC agency, to become more in line with their desired outcomes and goals.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh Hanney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leigh Hanney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alan
Good points all round. It does also highlight the challenges in agency land though...  It may be in the best interest of the client to dive deep into analytics and find the gold in the tail and the terms that are driving traffic at other stages of the buying cycle, but let&#039;s hope that agencies agree... Could be challenging if they&#039;re going after the performance based sale incentives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alan<br />
Good points all round. It does also highlight the challenges in agency land though&#8230;  It may be in the best interest of the client to dive deep into analytics and find the gold in the tail and the terms that are driving traffic at other stages of the buying cycle, but let&#8217;s hope that agencies agree&#8230; Could be challenging if they&#8217;re going after the performance based sale incentives.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Affiliate Marketing Made Easy With the Proper Market Research &#124; Geek or Unique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 06:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alan Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matt

Interesting point. Although analytics metrics such as page views, time on site and bounce rate will naturally vary depending on your products, services and industry, I think analytics can still be incredibly useful in comparing different campaigns, ad groups and keywords within your site.

Even if page views are lower because of your conversion-funnel-style landing page, I imagine there will still be campaigns, ad groups and keywords which perform better or worse than average.

I think analytics metrics are most powerful when they are considered in relative, rather than absolute, terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt</p>
<p>Interesting point. Although analytics metrics such as page views, time on site and bounce rate will naturally vary depending on your products, services and industry, I think analytics can still be incredibly useful in comparing different campaigns, ad groups and keywords within your site.</p>
<p>Even if page views are lower because of your conversion-funnel-style landing page, I imagine there will still be campaigns, ad groups and keywords which perform better or worse than average.</p>
<p>I think analytics metrics are most powerful when they are considered in relative, rather than absolute, terms.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Umbro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Umbro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alan,

Great post.  I&#039;d like to get your opinion on the relevance of these campaign metrics when you are sending someone to a specific landing page that is optimized for the conversion (i.e: some text, strong call to action, and a form).  Here you are hoping the user converts right away instead of looking around.  You ideally want the user to stay on the site even after he/she converts, but now you have the lead and can contact that person directly.  I&#039;ve noticed this trend especially with B2B sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alan,</p>
<p>Great post.  I&#8217;d like to get your opinion on the relevance of these campaign metrics when you are sending someone to a specific landing page that is optimized for the conversion (i.e: some text, strong call to action, and a form).  Here you are hoping the user converts right away instead of looking around.  You ideally want the user to stay on the site even after he/she converts, but now you have the lead and can contact that person directly.  I&#8217;ve noticed this trend especially with B2B sites.</p>
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